Pedagogies of community engagement have been touted as one way faculty or staff can produce or strengthen disciplinary or subject-related learning outcomes or skill development for students in higher education. This has, consequently, left other learning and developmental outcomes often unspoken or, more often, unmeasured and hidden across teaching and learning experiences during college . These unstated learning and developmental outcomes are, however, intrinsic to community engaged pedagogies and initiatives: civic learning/knowledge, civic identity, civic agency, civic mindedness, and much more! In this presentation participants will begin with the PUBLIC goals, objectives, outcomes, etc. in mind and end with articulating a strategy to identify and assess these, often, unstated outcomes of community engagement pedagogies or initiatives.