Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to this spotlight being offered by the IUPUI Center for Translating Research into Practice. My name is Steve Viewik. I serve as the Associate Director of the Center. It's a pleasure to welcome you here to this special edition of spotlight that we're calling Sue and the City. So we're so glad that you're here. To join us to celebrate the amazing career of Sue Hyatt. And I shared with her earlier that even my own daughter, who was a student here, experienced a course that was brainstormed by Sue, and it transformed her career and Sue, I was remembering when you and I first met, not long after the center was created, you and I had coffee out in the community and talked about translational research and the ways that we could connect and work and look where we are today. So we always like to begin these sessions by thanking our founders, Emeritus Chancellor Charles AR Banz and Professor Emeritus Sandra Petrono Sandra as a professor of communication Studies. It was Sandra's idea for I UPI to create a center that focused on translational research. And it was Charles's legacy when he stepped down to create the Bans Community Fellow Award, which Sue is an inaugural winner of, and we'll be highlighting that work today. So as we get together and start this session, just a few reminders, we're all used to Zoom, but we ask that you do keep your microphones muted as we're going through the beginning of the program, there will be a time when we ask you perhaps to unmute if you want to share a question or a comment after we go through the program. But you're welcome to put your comments into the chat. We'll have some opportunity to visit those and share those with Sue later. 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I think after you hear today about the impact, you'll see why this is important and certainly want to support it any way you can. We have lots of things going on at the center. Just a reminder coming up in a couple of weeks, our regular scholar of the month event will be featuring Professor Susanna Mariscal, and she'll be talking about strength based primary prevention working together to increase family well being and social support. We'll have a great conversation. That's on Friday, October 27. At 12 noon, virtually, it's not too late to register for that. But today, we are here to talk about Sue Hyatt. A anthropologist here at IEPI with an amazing career, and she's going to we're going to learn about her work in something called Sue and the City Adventures in Translational Research in Indianapolis. And so what we're going to do today is first, we'll hear from Chancellor Emeritus Charles R Banz, who will talk about her work as the inaugural Banz fellow awardee. And then we'll have a chance to hear from Sue, and she'll tell us about her work and the highlights of her career, followed by these four impressive folks. First, we'll hear from doctor Kathy Johnson, followed by doctor Bill Bloomquist, then doctor K Murtada, and finally doctor Mary Price. Once they've all had a chance to share their reflections, we'll pause and let you, as the audience, have a moment to share your thoughts, questions, and share the experiences that you've had with Su's amazing work here on campus. So to begin, I will now invite doctor Banz, who unfortunately can't be with us live today, but has been able to share a video presentation of their comments along with doctor Petrono. So please welcome. And with your silent class, doctor Banz and doctor Petrono. Hi, I'm Charles Bans and Sandra Petrono is here with me. Looking behind us, you're seeing the White River and Mike Carroll Stadium over my ear. That's the lights. And it made us think of Indianapolis, the center of Indianapolis, a campus, at IUPUI, and it seemed right for Avantas celebrating Sue Hyatt's contributions, the great work she's done. And we appreciate being asked to comment on that. Anthropology scholar who digs is often an archaeologist like Paul Mullins. It was. But while Sue Hyatt is, in fact, an anthropologist, and she very definitely dug into the culture and community of Indianapolis, she isn't an archaeologist. She focuses on culture and structures. And history three and the intersection of those things in people's lives. Her work the last decade, really, probably more than that, I suspect, if I look back, has focused on the Indianapolis community and the disappearance, as she and Paul called the invisible Indianapolis, the disappearance of neighborhoods and comm cultural history. But she did that and all worked on this as well. To, in fact, excavate that history to excavate those cultural experiences and preserve them in their richest form. Sometimes the documents, the newspapers, the photos, the stories that go along with that But Sue did this work in a very intriguing way that she created a class and that class focused on first on the south side of Indianapolis, the near South side, sort of around the area, some people call us the neighborhood of Shapiro's, just off the 70 interstate the inner loop. And she worked on that project with students over a number of years and engaged community members in that book. And as a result, the work, I think, has enhanced a collective understanding of how historical decisions, like where do you put a freeway and where do you place a university campus affect shape, displaced and eliminated. Communities and change the feeling enormously of those communities. As those of you who tried to walk under the interstate bridges, you know the sense of how different that would be if it were a open street. Sue's passion for preserving memories really did make an incredible difference because in fact, they are being preserved. As I mentioned, they've been working on, they did scanathons, scanning people's documents and photos in order to do the kind of scale to save the work from people's lives. While, people have heard a fair amount of Su's scholarship. Not everyone is aware of the degree to which S has stepped up. She stepped up to support her colleagues in so many ways. She has served as a reviewer of proposals both formally after they're submitted and informally in advance to provide feedback. And then sometimes providing feedback on proposals that had been submitted. She serves on committees. She served her department as chair, which is one of the most challenging jobs on any campus, and she served your school and campus. So So, we thank you so much for all the amazing work you've done. The change it's made to the way Indianapolis, I think has thought about its future. And certainly it affected how people have been thinking about the next set of changes to the interstate. Thank you so much for the work. Thank you for supporting sharing the translational mission, and thank you for so engaging our students in this process. Thanks much, and we wish you the best. So, thank you, Chancellor Emeritus Spans and doctor Petronio, for helping set the stage and welcoming now Sue Hyatt to share with us pieces of her amazing career here at the Indianapolis Campus of IUPY. So welcome, Sue. Well, thank you very much. I feel really moved by that. I think we can just move to the Q&A. I'm looking here and just the people that I see here, students from some years ago, current colleagues. My friend Irma McLurn, who I went to college with and grad school, so many people, and I'm really touched that you came to see this. So I guess I start sharing my screen now. Whoops. Share screen. Okay. And here we are with the Su and the City theme. I was going to play the music from Sex in the City, but I think I don't need any more technological challenges. So you all get the reference. So here we are. Here's a photo of us taking off to go to the field, very determined with our clipboards. Taking off from the anthropology department to go to the community. And that has always been my favorite thing about teaching an IUPUI is taking students out of our normal classrooms and into the city because the city is an incredible classroom and of itself. It's an incredible laboratory. I just wanted to go back a little bit in time and talk about how I worked as a community organizer for eight years in Chicago 2081 2089. And then I went back to UMass to do my PhD. And that Chicago experience really informed the way that I teach and, you know, the way that I do most things in my life through a kind of collective orientation, involving people, hearing different people's stories. You can see a picture if you look carefully of me with Harold Washington, who was mayor of Chicago in the 1980s when I was there unfortunate air day for me. But it's a very treasured memory. Now, everybody who's ridden with me knows what my car looks like, that I always, whenever I'm teaching off campus, which has been, I would say, a good percentage of semesters, I have snacks in the back of the hatchback, and in the backseat. I have all the supplies we need, because the revolution depends on large paper and post its, and on snacks. And so these are some community meetings, a class. We always have this kind of brainstorming and asking people for their contributions to what we're doing. So here's a map of Indianapolis. The pink dots represent neighborhoods that I've taken students to to do ethnographic methods classes. You'll notice they're fairly close into the center because we have to leave the campus, drive to wherever we're going, and then have the class time there, so we can't be too far away, but I always have taught every one of these classes except during the pandemic out in the neighborhoods that we're working in. I think Steve and Chancellor Bans gave a good sense of what translational research is. But the part of translational research that I love is that it's community engaged, and that it makes a difference in people's lives. And I'm also going to talk about students because I think it makes a huge difference in students' lives. And the students who have been in these classes with me, they've been in touch with me, Nt. Some of them for ten years, some of them for 15 years, some of them for five years. You know, I really creates a tight bond, and sometimes they also stay in close touch with people from the neighborhoods. So what have we learned? Well, one of my goals in teaching these classes out in the neighborhoods is to show students that neighborhoods, as we see them today, are a very recent invention, that's always the case, and these neighborhoods have been formed through historical processes like red lining, urban renewal, highway construction, the expansion of our own campus, suburbanization, and waves of migration and immigration. It was my colleague, Paul Mullens, whom I'll talk about at the end of this talk, who mostly worked on campus expansion. But his work certainly shaped the way that I began doing my work when I came to I UPUI. So we've looked at the processes that have produced and are reshaping our neighborhoods, learning about Southside redevelopment plans. That was in 2022, the lasting impact of I 70 on the south side, processes of I'm sorry, pressures of gentrification in Mapleton Fall Creek. And then on the right, two photos from a very memorable project about the impact that the 2012 Super Bowl had on the city. So I'll talk about that in a minute, too. So structural problems affect all cities. And community based organizations and neighborhood organizations are working so hard to address these issues. They're overwhelmed and underfunded, but we always received a warm welcome and a lot of help from our community partners. And I think people loved the students. I hope we have some community partners on the call who can talk to this because I think people want to have their stories told and people don't get enough opportunities to tell those stories. This is a recent stories a story about huge companies buying up single family homes in Indianapolis, which has hugely affected our rental market and access to affordable housing has increased evictions. And that is not something I've worked on or the students have worked on with me. That's a recent issue, but it's an example of the kind of large scale issue that affects neighborhoods. On the lower left is foreclosures and abandoned homes. We did work on that issue. The map in the middle. That's an issue that we've worked on around food deserts and chronic health problems due to poor nutrition. And then poor sidewalks are no sidewalks, and I'll talk about that project, too. So, I went back into my memory bank and into my old hard drives and folders, and finding some of this stuff was a little bit of a challenge. But I came to IUPY, started in January 2005, and in spring 2006, I taught my first ethnographic methods class. We collaborated with an organization called ONE Organization for a New East Side. It no longer exists. But at the time, they were partnering with a legal services to do a program that was kind of an early warning program for foreclosures and trying to prevent foreclosures. The East Side was kind of on the cutting edge of the foreclosure crisis. So even two years before 2008, collapse of the housing market, there were huge issues around vacant housing and foreclosure on the east side. Look how young I look there, my goodness. So we worked on this project, which was called saving Homes in 462o1. On the left, you see students in a bus touring the neighborhood. We always have walking tours and sometimes bus tours of the neighborhoods that we're going to be working in. In the middle or in the next picture to the right is students in class at Grace Tuxedo Church. We've met in all kinds of spaces, but churches have been really, really great hosts for the class. On the last two on the right, our students doing door to door surveys. We surveyed every house on every block in this particular neighborhood, Grace Tuxedo. And here, at the end of every class, we always have a reception for people in the neighborhood where the students can talk about their work and present it. We can see some posters here that the students did. Those stayed on display at that church for, I think, maybe months and maybe even years after the course was over. This map that you see, Grace Tuxedo Park, that was a map that was compiled with all of the data that the students collected about the prevalence of non owner occupied rental and vacant homes. In 2009, we moved a little further east to a neighborhood that's called Community Heights. And we worked with the Community Heights neighborhood Association there. We met in a different church, Arlington Baptist Church, which you can see a picture of us on the left. The picture on the left and the picture of us walking on the upper right. You can see us with Scott Armstrong, who was then the president of that association. Scott has stayed connected to me and to many of the students for many years now. And he was such a great person to work with that we worked with him again in another setting, which we'll get to in a mint. For those of you not from Indianapolis, the drive through sign is attached to a restaurant called the Steer inn, which is no longer a drive through, but it was a restaurant right near where the class met. And so often after class, the students would repair to the steer in for some refreshments, as you can see on the lower right. If you look carefully at the lower right picture and the one in the middle on the bottom row, you'll see Jesse Brown, who was who Indianapolis residents may know won the Democratic primary for the City County Council, and will probably soon be serving as the representative for the East Side. I like to think maybe this class helped shape his political trajectory. The students did work at Steer n two. In the middle bottom, they're interviewing Mary Moriarty Adams, who was, at that time, the city county councilwoman from that district. Unfortunately, she passed away some years ago, but she was great to the students, and I think she not only let them interview her, I think she treated them to dinner. We East Side excuse me, community Heights work resulted in a little neighborhood book called East Side Story, portrait of a neighborhood on the Suburban frontier. And I tell you, I love working on these community publications because there's nothing that we can write that will ever be as well appreciated as these community books. We had a book launch in October, I think it was of 22,009, we had about 100 people from the neighborhood come. We had a grant to print 1,000 copies of the books, which we could freely distribute. You can see somebody holding his books and the student his book. And what was really great is the people from the neighborhood asked the students to sign their copies of the book. I always encourage students to take seriously the work that they're doing. Undergraduates are excellent researchers. Graduate students are too, but the undergraduates just get stuck in, and they're very enthusiastic. And so these two students from that 2009 class, Maggie Bowery and Dan Brantraer. They actually published an article about that work in an anthropology newsletter Anthropology News. And this is just a little quote of something that they learned from working in the neighborhood. When we drive along 16th Street, a major thoroughfare that traverses the entire city, we now know that when it passes through community heights, it functions as an invisible social boundary, differentiating the homeowners in older brick bungalows to the South, from the renters concentrated, excuse me, in the North. So, I mean, that's the kind of thing that we learn from being in these neighborhoods, from driving around, from talking people, from using our powers of observation. The project that Chancellor Ban so kindly referred to the neighborhood was called the neighborhood of Saturdays, and that was the near South Side. And that's probably the project that became most well known. I'm absolutely sure that Beverly Miller Khan and her mom, miss Pete, who were two stalwarts of that project are on the call with us today. These are some of the elders. This was a tremendous experience, and we learned about the history of a neighborhood around Lucas Oil Stadium that had once been home to a population of Jewish immigrants and African Americans who lived in, you know, peacefully with bonds of cooperation and friendship. And what was really interesting to hear about this neighborhood was that even in a time of Jim Crow segregation and a time before court ordered school integration, these schools were very mixed, and they were mixed not so much by design, but by result of a kind of benign neglect. Sometimes benign neglect can be a good thing. And people lived in that neighborhood and just kind of got on with one another. I'll tell you now how we got this photo, and Chancellor Bans kind of explained it. We organized these events we called scanathons. We organized them at the Concord neighborhood Center, which is down in that old Southside area. And one of the great things about the scanathons was we had people bring their memorabilia and their old photos and anything they wanted to share. We had them bring them, and we scanned them while we waited and collected the information from them. But part of the benefit of that was that people saw each other's memorabilia. So on the left, you see Beverly Scott namis. And Hildemon, all looking at, I believe it was a Wood High School yearbook. So people got to see each other's materials. And here's a scanathon that we did at the synagogue where many of the Jewish South siders are affiliated. It's up on Hoover Road now north of the JCC. David, I think is on the call today. He looks quite different now. He's a policy analyst and a father of four. And on the lower right, you can see two of or at least one of the people from our library, our digital scholarship unit of our library was just a tremendous help. And they helped us at all the scanathons, and helped us cataloging all of the work, all of the artifacts. We did publish a book that in of itself is a story that I can tell another time. I think I'm in touch with just about all of the students in this picture. This was 2012 at our book launch. Unfortunately, the book is out of print because the publisher went out of business. But I Nori McLucas will send out a follow up e mail, and I'll make sure she puts a link to where you can read a PDF of the book. And the other thing that we'll send out a link to is our website, which is also maintained by the library, was set up and maintained by the library. There's tons of stuff in here. There's over 400 photos and scanned items. There's links to a lot of media about the project, and there's even a link to an oral history play that we performed about the history of the neighborhood. 150 people came to the JCC to see that production. Not quite ready for Broadway, but the students did a tremendous job. And Sharon Gamble, who some of you may remember, from W FYI, or local public radio station. She served as our narrator, which was really kind. In our travels around the South side, we learned about a building that had been known as the communal building, and I'm pronouncing it that way because that's how South Siders pronounce it. And if you said communal, they always corrected you. It's communal building. And the communal building, which unfortunately is no longer standing was located at 17 West Morris Street, and it was essentially what we would call today a settlement house. And it served Jewish immigrants. When they arrived in Indianapolis, there were citizenship classes. There were social events, there were all kinds of activities. O elderly Jewish elders, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say elderly. O Jewish elders reminisced about that their experiences at the Communal building when they were growing up quite a bit. In 1958, the neighborhood had changed demographically. After World War two, a lot of the Jewish residents of the neighborhood migrated north. And so the Communal building became the concord center, serving as it says, as a non sectarian interracial social group. And this was an article that we found at the Concord Center, the Contemporary Concord Center, which I'll talk about in a minute about a Mr. Enoch Mitchell who worked for 47 years at the Communal Building, and then after it became the Concord Center and retired in 1975. So needless to say we didn't get to interview him, but I'm sure he had some amazing stories to tell. Some of you from Indianapolis know about the Concord center today. Here it is at its current home at 13:10 South Meridian. If you really know about the history of the South side, as everybody who is in my classes does. The place where the Concord center is now was the site of School 22, which was knocked down. And the doors from School 22 are on the current Concord Center. The School 22 was the source of many stories that we heard about going to school in an integra and having integrated classes, This was our ethnographic methods class, which we held at the Concord Center. Classes were held at the Concord Center in 2010 and 2011, as well when we were doing the original neighborhood of Saturday's project. We went back in 2020. And unfortunately, as you all know, in March of that year, the class was, you know, had to go online because of the pandemic. But we had a good six or eight weeks there. And one of the great things about holding classes in these community settings is neighborhood residents stop by all the time. Sometimes I invite them. Sometimes they just come by the upper center picture as a picture of, like, a panel of former Southside, former and current southsiders, actually, talking about the neighborhood with the students. That Southside project was very generative and produced some other projects. Medupe La Bode, who was a former colleague in museum studies, her class in 2014, created this traveling exhibit called split but not separated about the story of how the neighborhood recreated and rediscovered their bonds after I 70 was constructed and split the neighborhood and displaced many, many people. And we had an opening for that exhibit, and it was on display for bit at the Concorde Center. And there we all are. And in 2016, Paul Mullins and I, who that was the year that we were the bands Community fellows. That was 2016, 2017. We kind of launched our year of activities at the Concorde Center with this event called Homes before Highways Communities Under the Exit Ramp. And we invited people to come about 100 did to talk about what the impact of I 70 had been on those Southside neighborhoods. One thing that the students commented on and that I also found interesting was the fact that people referred to things as being under the highway. Like, when we were interviewing South Siders, they would say, Oh, my house is under the highway. And it always gave us a very interesting mental image of the idea that this neighborhood was still as it used to be, but it was just under the highway. Of course, we know that's not the case. But it was just a very interesting way that people conceptualized of where the neighborhood had gone and where it is now. In 2021, as you can see, that's pandemic time, we opened another history exhibit a permanent exhibit at the Concord Center. That was by request of the Concord staff. They had said that they would really like to have a little exhibit about the history of the building, tracing it back to its origins as the Jewish settlement house. So our museum studies students once again came to the rescue. This was the opening reception. As you can see, we had it outside because of the pandemic. And people went in in small groups to look at the exhibit. It's very hard to get a picture of it. So this doesn't really do justice to it. It's in a kind of narrow hallway. But for those of you in Indianapolis, I encourage you to stop by the Concorde center and take a look at it. On the left, lower left, you'll see the picture of the timeline that the students created, which really gives you a really nice sense of how the Concorde center has served its population on the south side through different periods, different historical periods and different periods of migration. I'm back tracking now to 2012 to Crockett Creek, which is up on Michigan Road, for those of you from Indianapolis. Scott Armstrong, who I mentioned before, was such a great community partner when we were in Community Heights. And at this time, he was the director of the Crockett Heights I'm sorry, Crockett Creek neighborhood Development or Community Development Corporation. So I asked him if we could work with him again, and he very kindly said, yes. So this time the class met at the Crockett Creek Development Corporation. We had a very nice meeting room there, as you can see on the right. Here we are in front of the office on the left. We did a mapping project as part of our work that semester. This was my first foray into community mapping. And through the Polar center, I got connected to someone named onsum, and he might be on the Zoom today, too. I was just in touch with him yesterday. And he allowed us to be Beta testers for a program that he was developing called Mapler. And Mapler basically allowed us to turn smartphones into GPS locators. And so what we would do is download the app, and they would set up a map for us, and then you could go and mark particular points in the community that we wanted to look at on the map, as you'll see in a minute. And for each of those points, you can click and see a little description of that site. Here are the two of two maps that were created using Mapler. Here are some students presenting their work. The walkability one was really interesting because, as you all know, if you're in Indianapolis, this is not a walkable city. And there's a lot of neighborhoods that do not have good sidewalks or do not have any sidewalks, which was kind of startling to me when I moved here. And while we were rummaging around Scott's office, which he very generously let us do, some students found a pile of walkability surveys that had been done with senior citizens by the ARP in 2010, so two years before we were there. And they asked Scott if they could work with the surveys, and I think he was delighted to have them do so. And so they took the surveys and created this map of walkability. It's not live. This is a screenshot, so I can't click on the points, but I can send out some links to some of these maps later on. The map on the right, we were looking at the lack of full service grocery stores along Michigan Road and the prevalence of predatory lenders, which was another issue that I've looked at in my classes. We had our community reception, as we always do at the CDC office. Again, we got a very nice turnout from the community. And then 2015 to 2018, we moved to Mapleton Fall Creek, which is kind of a neighborhood sort of mid north neighborhood. That's a very interesting neighborhood. It's undergoing a lot of changes. Now, there's a lot of pressures from gentrification. This was our walking tour. And I think in 2015, The 2016 student projects were particularly interesting. No offense to any students who may have been in the other classes. But we had a grant for the 2016 class and the 2017 class. The 2017 class was taught by my colleague Gn Di Vote, who had the students do some really interesting digital stories, and the grant was to focus on health disparities. And one of the groups in my 2016 class, proposed the idea that public art might be have a positive effect on people's health, and I really didn't know anything about that, but they did research into it, and they found that there was some evidence to support that. Mapleton Fall Creek. I mean, I haven't driven around to check how many of these objects are still there, but it was informal art on people's houses. People painted their driveways, some actual designated public art. There was a range of very interesting art in that neighborhood. So if you live here and you haven't driven around there, I encourage you to do so, and I'll show you a map that you can use to find all the art. We did more mappls in 2016, again with anum helping us a green spaces map and a public art map. And the public art group, and here's our final reception on the left with our wonderful community partner, Lee Riley Evans, who also has stayed very connected to the Anthropology Department and down below our audience. On the right is Lee Riley Evans, Wendy Vote, one of our former grad students, Erin Donovan and me, and we're presenting on the work that the classes did on health disparities for the granting organization. The public art group produced this amazing story map and hats off to the MTA for that class, Haley Horn Shami now Shafer. I think she's trying to tune in from an airport where she's waiting to change planes. But she was a double major in anthropology and geography. So she brought those mapping skills to the class, and we did some of these story maps. And this one on public art is really so striking and interesting. Everything that that team found. They just went to every corner of the neighborhood looking for anything that could be considered art. So I thought it was such a great project that in two years later when I was teaching an introduction to anthropology class, Anther one oh four, the students were part of what we call it IUPUI, a learning community, and they needed to do a service project. For their service project, I suggested they create a driving map of Mapleton Fall Creek showing the art, which you can see on your left and hats off here to that TA, Meggie Strobe, who was a geography student who figured all of this out. You can see a picture of the group on the right. And we took the students on a bus tour, fortunately he was pouring rain that day, but we did it anyway. We had a very nice lunch. A group in the neighborhood hosted us for the lunch. To be honest, I can't remember. I think it was an architects firm, but I invited Scott Westfall to come. You'll see him standing up on the picture on the right there. He's a public artist. He designed a beautiful piece of art called Silver Fall. It's number 12 on the map on Fall Creek at Delaware. If you live in Indianapolis, I definitely encourage you to go look at it. And Scott Westfall led the class in a very interesting discussion of how do we define what public art is? I'm coming to the end, so we're rolling down the home stretch here, but I could not end without mentioning these Muri projects with Drew Classic. Drew Classic has retired from I UPI. He used to be a faculty member in our school of public policy, and he knows everybody in the city. And he was a tremendous partner, these multi disciplinary undergraduate research projects, involved two or more faculty collaborating to bring different perspectives to students who participate in them. We structured the projects. It offers funding for some students and funding to support costs like bus tours that we did with that group or various printing posters, various other kinds of expenses. A lot of the Muri projects are bench science, and so they use it to buy equipment. We used it to go to fun restaurants and visit different neighborhoods and even different cities. The most memorable I would have to say, was the 2011 2012 Super Bowl City project, because for those of you don't know or don't remember, the Super Bowl was in Indianapolis in the spring or winter of 2012. So the way that we structured the program was, in the fall, I would usually teach my urban anthropology class. We would focus on an issue on the issue that we wanted to do the Mure project on. So fall 2011, the urban Anthropology class focused on the impact of sporting events on cities. And I can assure you this was not something I knew anything about before we did the class. I We read articles about what the impact of the Olympics have been, what the impact has been, what the impact of the World Cups has been. We looked at different sporting events and articles about the impact on local environments. And it's not really a very optimistic picture of what happens to cities after they host these major sporting events. But we looked at the Super Bowl in the city because of Drew, the students got to interview almost everybody involved with planning the Super Bowl. On the left, the students are standing actually at Butler Call at Butler University because Butler every year And I think they've resumed this, but it might be online now. They had a really wonderful undergraduate research conference, and we always brought the students to present there. And you can see us there with our friend Alisa Edwards, who's an anthropologist at Butler, and she served as our discussant and the students gave papers on their projects. That paper I'm sorry, that picture in the upper middle. That's I'm sitting in a small room in the library. We would reserve these small rooms in the library and meet there with the group about every two or three weeks to see how everyone's research was going. On the right, you can see the students with their posters, and that's at I UPI Research Day. And we also took students to professional conferences. The Super Bowl Group got to go to Baltimore where they presented at the National Conference of the Society for Applied Anthropology. And they were a huge hit. They were one of very few few undergraduate panels. And I got one of my former grad students from Temple, who's now a professor at Towson State to serve as their discussant. The 2013 14 team looked at urban abandonment. We took a trip up to the region, as we say in Indiana, the North Oh, no, I I'm gonna forget if it's Northeast orrthwest. But North Indiana, where the steel mills and the other heavy industry used to be. That's where Drew Classic is from. So he took us on a great tour of Whiting, Indiana. I think that picture of us standing outside was standing by Lake Michigan on her way up to that area, and I had a restaurant in Whiting. And the last group that we did We talked about two models for downtown development, Public city to Philanthropols, and we compared Indianapolis downtown Cal with a walking and biking trail called the Cultural Trail. The Cal was wholly funded by public money, and the cultural trail was almost entirely funded by philanthropic money or at least the lead came from a philanthropic organization here. So we compared that You can see on the right, we were on a trip to Cincinnati. The class was actually supposed to make two trips that winter one to Cincinnati and one to Louisville to compare them to Indianapolis. The Louisville trip never happened because if you remember the winter of 2015, there kept being big snowstorms and I 65 was closed off. That group also upper picture of them at Butler, at the undergraduate research conference, and the picture with the posters at research Day. Chancellor Bans very kindly talked about the Bans community fellowship. My dear and late colleague, Paul Mullins and I were the inaugural recipients of this fellowship. Paul had done extensive work on the west side of Indianapolis and on the history of the campus and the neighborhoods that used to occupy the space where our campus now stands. I had done all these community projects, and particularly the South Side project. So we brought them together. Under this umbrella, we called Invisible Indianapolis, which was about Seeing the hidden histories of neighborhoods, how neighborhoods have been shaped by interstate construction, red lining, all of these kinds of larger forces. Unfortunately, Paul passed away this past spring as a result of a brain tumor, and we all miss him tremendously. He had a huge impact on me and on my work. The last thing I wanted to say is that we could not be deterred by the pandemic. I taught urban anthropology in the spring of 2021, entirely online. We did a project we called COVID and the City, big shout out to Samantha Riley who put together this beautiful website for us. It's just WWW COVID city.org. Again, we'll send out these links. And These projects, I just finished writing an article for publication about these projects. I just every time I look at them, I can't believe how good they are. We never met in person. We were only on Zoom, but students went out, they mapped neighborhoods. They analyzed visual artifacts of the coronavirus era. They wrote blogs about their experiences in the pandemic, and they created predictions of what they thought the city would be like post pandemic, really cool project. The 20202022 classes were compromised, of course, by the the pandemic, but we still got stuff done, and a former student, Dana Dobbins. They created a website where we've posted a lot of the projects that the students did, both pre lockdown and post lockdown, and during lockdown, all of the above. And there are some great links there. You can see videos that a student recorded kind of tours of the neighborhood, walking tours that a student created, Jake Watson, a fantastic job, and all kinds of other projects. This is the end. I just want to say a huge thanks to all the community partners that collaborative research. If you take it seriously. It requires an additional investment of time before during and after the project. But it's a human relationship. There's give, there's take, we disagree. We come up with different ways to do things. We run into obstacles. We conquer them, but we do it together as equals in an egalitarian process. I hope all my community partners feel that that's been the case. And here's me looking younger. Because I was younger with some south siders. And the last thing I want to say is I want to really emphasize what this means to students. I shot out an e mail and I just said to a few students, like, Hey, what did this project working on these projects mean to you? And I got back these very substantive answers. So I'm not going to read through them now because I think it will take some time, but hopefully you can look at the recording and actually read the students' insights. And this is just a small sampling. But I have to read an excerpt from Gov Doskis. He was one of the neighborhood of Saturday students. He said, Professor Hyatt walked the path like a Guru, and in turn help helped us learn from the fieldwork beyond the academic requirement. Thank you, Govan. I think he might be on the Zoom. So what does it take to do this work? It takes a lot of institutional support. We have a very robust architecture here of organizations, institutions, centers that provide funding, technical assistance, other kinds of support. Shout out to all of them. They've all been tremendously helpful and tremendous allies of this work. We couldn't do it without them. So as we're transitioning from IUPUI to becoming IUI Indiana University, Indianapolis. I hope that the values of this kind of work will remain at the core of our institutions mission. As the acting chancellor said to me yesterday, or Wednesday. It's part of our DNA. And I think it is part of the DNA of IUPUI, and I hope that remains. And lastly, I have to thank my colleagues in the Anthropology Department and Museum Studies. I have had such good fortune here to work with, like, the best the best of the best. A wonderful group, really. We're very tight department. We're very collegial. We're very supportive of one another, and they've just been tremendous. So thank you to everyone, and I'm going to stop sharing now and see what people have to say. Wow, thank you, Sue. That was amazing. You can see lots of virtual clapping going on. And you'll have a chance now to look at the comments and see that there's a lot of love, a lot of appreciation. And some follow up from things that you were talking about. And we now, as I will remind folks who've joined us, we are going to ask four of our esteemed colleagues, Sue's colleagues to share some reflections before we open it up to folks in the community. And you'll have a chance to continue putting your comments in the chat. But also when we're finished with our four colleagues sharing their ideas, we'll ask you to go to the bottom of your screen and do reactions and raise your hands so we know if you'd like to say something to turn on your camera and your microphone. But first, it's my pleasure to welcome doctor Kathy Johnson from our campus to share her reflections about Sue's contributions and impact on our campus in our community. So welcome Kathy. Yeah, thank you, Steve. And thank you, Sue. That was amazing. I was thinking to myself, what can I possibly say? So, I do have some prepared remarks, but let me just quickly interject that your description of this phenomenal body of work is truly what has made me most proud of being at this institution. It's iconic. It's really become a hallmark of what IPI is known for. And I'm just so proud to be your colleague and to be here today. So, some of you might be old enough to remember this slogan back in 2008. It was often said about IUPI on the radio and on billboards, IUPUI, where impact is made. And I think this could well have been written about doctor Sue Hyatt. Doctor Hyatt and her colleagues, doctor Paul Mullins, have made an incredible impact on so many members of our university community, as well as the broader Metropolitan Indianapolis region through this community engaged research, which Sue just described for us. It's really become a signature area, and I'm delighted to hear that the acting chancellor echoes that theme. And I really am convinced that it will persist and extend far beyond some of us, and I will continue to watch with pride at what happens next. I'll also forever be indebted to Se for her tireless advocacy, aimed at preserving the history and the culture of minoritized Indianapolis communities. So, Sue, as you can tell from her remarks, clearly is a teacher scholar, whose core values, at least I found are evident within the first few minutes of meeting her. She is passionate about her scholarly work. She loves learning as much as she loves teaching, and she really considers her students to be co instructors. Her background in community organizing from back in Chicago days clearly has provided strong roots for her academic career. Her professional service, her teaching, and her anthropological research are tightly fused together and bound by threads of activism, equity, and a commitment to social justice. Students invariably, as we've seen, are transformed through learning with her through developing skills and interpersonal communication and cultural humility as they practice ethnographic research techniques. And her teaching extends far beyond the classroom. She is perhaps most in her element, as we've seen when taking students into the community to develop their research skills, and she has been an incredibly active research mentor, as well as practitioner of service learning. So today, the focus is particularly on Sue's work with Paul as the inaugural Charles Bans community Fellows. Many neighborhoods in Indianapolis have had their unique histories and cultures illuminated through the invisible Indianapolis project, which has extended far beyond the life of the fellowship to include regular blog posts, and I really recommend that all of you check it out. I lose hours, sometimes, you know, just reading their posts. The research reflected on this site is such a point of pride for IUPUI and our legacy of community engaged scholarship. And I also so appreciate the contributions of so many students to the work, students whose lives have been fundamentally changed due to the roles that they have played in helping to bring these stories to light. So many students, beyond IPIs borders, have benefited from Su's legacy as a teacher. When I first began serving in the role of Executive Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs about eight years ago, Sue first invited me to one of my favorite end of the semester celebrations, those associated with the Inside Out Exchange Program. Now, doctor Laurie Pompa established this program at Temple in 1997 to bring college students and persons who are incarcerated together in semester long courses in order to mutually learn from each other as peers. Sue brought this program with her from Temple and has helped to expand it by training other IUPI faculty to teach through the model. I've had the great fortune of being present to hear both the IPI students and their peers. Most recently, I think it was from Dove Recovery House. They shared how they're thinking about education, about the criminal justice system, and about societal inequities, has been transformed through their experiences together. These stories were gripping and filled me with a deep conviction that this program must be deeply integrated into our curricula. The slogan of the inside out program is social change through transformative education, and that, just like the where impact is made, slogan, could easily serve as book ends for Sue's career, a career marked by impact, by transformative education, and through catalyzing social change. Sue, I will miss you greatly, and IPI will not be the same without you. But the seeds that you have planted have already taken root and grown swiftly. I have no doubt that the legacy of your work and the work done in collaboration with Paul will outlast all of us here. Thank you for all that you've done for so many, and I wish you all the best in retirement. So thank you. And now it is my great honor to introduce the next speaker who is Professor Emeritus of Political Science, and also Dean Emeritus, the very smart dean that hired Sue, doctor Bill Bloom Quist. That's very kind. I can't take credit for that, but I don't know. Maybe I shouldn't correct the record and just claim it. Anyway, you got to work with Sue, though. Thank you, Cathy. We're gonna miss you, too. It's joyful and it's touching. To listen to and remember the work and the different projects, Nuri, if you could advance the next slide, please for me. One of the things that I think as Steven and as Charles and Kathy talked about the importance of translational research, I just want to connect that to the neighborhood of Saturday's project that I'll talk about for just a couple of minutes. This project, which Sue told you about and has sort of surfaced and resurfaced in different variations over the years, is an example of the fact that None of us does translational research. None of the scholars at I UPI or elsewhere who do translational research do it alone. This is not the work that you do you know, as the sort of solo Lone Wolf researcher, you know, tucked away in a little office sort of scribing away. That this is the work that brings people together, because first of all, it's what motivates us to do the work, and second, it's necessary to do the work work. And so Su's work brings people together. And in the case of the neighborhood of Saturdays project, brings it back together, because, although this is a group of people, communities originally from the Old South Side now more spread around the city, they get together from time to time, but the project, the neighborhood of Saturdays project was an additional reason. To get back together and to get back together more often. So during, especially that couple of years when the project was at its most active, these were former residents, former neighbors who were seeing each other sort of again and again this time with students and talking about their experiences. And so it's one of the real hallmarks of translational researches that not only do you not do it alone, but it brings people together. Nori, if you could advance to the next slide for me, please. The other thing that jumps out about neighborhood of Saturdays is For reasons that Sue described and Sue and Paul's research has reviewed in a lot of contexts. This is a neighborhood that literally, in some respects and certainly figuratively got buried by actions taken by people in the City of Indianapolis, Marion County, State of Indiana. And so one of the sort of joys, I think, probably for the neighbors most of all, was to stand in the public assembly room of the city county building and have the City of Indianapolis recognized. The neighborhood of Saturdays. And I think a good lesson in the fact that at its best translational research, and the work that most specifically sort of lifts people back up who've been pushed down and to the side. And so that was certainly a wonderful part of the neighbor Saturday's project next side, please. And some of you might be thinking as you're listening to this, especially if you're newer to Su's work, and you're hearing about some of this stuff for the first time. You might be thinking, Wow, more people ought to know about this. And one of the other things about the Neighborhood of Saturdays project was it was the subject of the on religion column in the New York Times. Um And the columnist Sam Friedman came to Indianapolis and sort of met with the different congregations and and told that story. So it was an opportunity, you know, not all of Sue's work, not all of the projects, not all of the students drew National news media attention. But this one did, and rightly so. And it was one of the things that you can you know, if you wish, I only clipped out a little excerpt of the beginning of the column here, but anybody who can get behind the paywall at the New York Times can just you can search any combination of these things, you can search the columnists last name, Friedman, and just search Friedman, Indianapolis. And this is the first thing that'll come up. So we were delighted to see Sue's News, the New York Times covering the neighborhood of Saturday's project. Nuri, if you could give me the next slide, please, and this is also, I think, my last one. Yeah. The note I want to end on, and then hand off to the wonderful friend and colleague, la Martata. To me, when I look at all of the projects and the student engagement and the community engagement, all this, a word that comes out is integrity, because this is work that Sue has done and done for years and in multiple parts of our city and with dozens of students that has these characteristics. Students are not cheap labor. They're given opportunities and they're genuinely involved as collaborators in the work. Residents are not lab rats or test subjects. They're treated respectfully and they're genuinely engaged in researching and telling their own stories. And then, as you heard Sue talking about, as she was describing the work, the campus itself, through work like this. Becomes seen in the community as a trustworthy partner. And given our history, which Sue and Paul could have told you about at great length. That's not always how we've been perceived. But thanks to work that Sue and her students have done, it's helped build that perception for us. So thank you, Sue for doing all of those things, and for doing them with that level of integrity. And now it is my pleasure to hand off to the wonderful doctor Kola Marta. We, thank you. Thank you so very much, Bill. And I've got to start with the whole idea of a little bit of historical context because it's so important. Back in 1970s, in the 70s, then Chancellor Maynard Heine put together a list of all the community engagement activities from IUPUI. And Hines documentation kind of shaped IUPUI positionality and mission to serve Indianapolis. And you were right on point, Bill. You know, we didn't have a very good reputation for community engagement at all. In fact, it was just the opposite. But since that time and the expansion of IUPUI schools and leaders, you know, the campus has enlarged its scope in research, and teaching, and creative activity, and this notion of civic engagement. So the history of advancing community engagement has attracted world renowned scholars and those who deeply understand and actually take this mission seriously of community engagement, translating research into practice, making a very big difference in terms of how and with whom we work. Sue is one of those world renowned scholars. When we think about that, she also knows how to take young people, not children, young people as collaborators to restaurants. She knows how to feed them and make sure that they enjoy a good meal. This is not in the Greek Isles. This is at the restaurant called the Greek Isles. But whether here in Indianapolis or over on the British Isles, which is where Sue has also spread the message. We know that she is clear about paying attention to those stories. The stories that clearly are left out of the communities purview and narrative. If you look at the power point behind her right now, she is emphasizing a key point about what we should take very seriously, almost an urgency, if you will. It's not just a question of adding new stories to the record, but of understanding how history gets configured in such a way that particular stories are left off in the first place. As an African American, I'm very familiar with this as there are other communities as well, and Sue wouldn't let that just rest. She said, let's make a difference. So the question marks and makes us reflect. Whose story gets told and whose stories are omitted? Whose stories are omitted? And that's a critical part of that work. When an ethnographer goes in and does the work with community partners, we begin to find out whose stories are told and whose are omitted. I've been recently reading a book that came out a number of years ago by Linda Nelson, and she said to improve the academy was the name of the book. She said, we have to weave promising practices into the university. Some of those practices include interpersonal awareness. That's Sue Hyatt, intrapersonal awareness, Sue Hyatt. Understanding that curricula needs to change Sue Hyatt. Transformation of inclusive pedagogy, and you know what I'm going to say, but also inclusive learning environment. Sue would make that point whether she was doing the inside out program or classes right in the community. And I want to say something about the inside out program. I think it's important. I've attended many of the ceremonies that are closing ceremonies for the inside out program. And they can always be summarized in this way because everyone is impassioned when we're there. They're reflecting on their learning. Sometimes folks are crying, but they're given an opportunity to really share what was the impact of learning together from those on the inside and those on the outside. And what Sue would always say is that this was a learning opportunity for all of us, including administrators and faculty on the campus, along with individuals who had been or were dealing with justice involved issues. The students say, thank you. We say, thank you, Sue, because you've committed to the work of cultural, racial, and social justice, both locally, nationally and internationally. Thank you, Sue. Passing it on to Mary Price. Mary, take it from here. Good Lord. I don't know what's left to be said. This is super intimidating, and it's such a privilege to be here and be invited back since I'm no longer part of the IUPUI campus. And so it's bittersweet both to celebrate Sue and to be in the space with all of you today. I think I want to invite us as I think about Su's legacy and work. To invite us, not on you think about this and its translational research dimensions, but connect it to a broader question that's confronting higher education more broadly, and that I see Su as a beacon and many other faculty at IUPUI and students and community members that have been part of the legacy of this work. And that's the relationship between higher education and democracy. And in translational work as represented by Sue, one of the things that I see here is her work as a complete and connected scholar. And the democracy I'm talking about is the Little D democracy of how we make decisions, how we come to understand knowledge, how we come to understand the capacities for collective self determination. And in each of the stories and vignettes that both Sue and my colleagues have shared so far, I hope you can hear inside of that the importance of how do we name what the issues are that confront us? Who gets to have a say at that? How do we determine what the potential solutions are? And then do we have the skills and abilities to build power to move solutions forward? And that fundamentally, my friends, is democratic practice and action. And it is something that's under threat in this country and something that we can see ensues work, long term efforts, not just by herself, but with others on campus and off to do what John Dewey invited us to remember And I don't know how many of you are familiar with this, the democracy has to be born a new every generation, and education is its midwife. We are all partners in that, whether we see it or experience it very often. But what I've appreciated about Sue's work and being a part of the I UPI story is the effort that in the context of our own complicated legacy and involvement in displacement, There is also this anchor work here to try to reclaim the Democratic promise. And I want to call back to Kathy's note that there was another marketing campaign that focused on IUPUI and IU is fulfilling the promise. And the promise is not just individual education, is this larger promise for who we are as a people and how we come to understand that. Nuri, can we go on to the next slide? Thank you so much. And so in the couple minutes that I have left, I wanted to invite us to think about Sue as an example, among others, including Paul Mullins, who's on the slide as well of Su as an example of the complete and connected scholar. The complete and connected scholar was coined in the mid 1980s by Eugene Rice as a way for us to rethink about the nature of higher education and of faculty work and what it's constituted. Going against the grain of the Ivory Tower and individual faculty pursuing a love of knowledge and doing that in isolation, right? It could have benefit, but it was isolated work. The complete scholar here refers to faculty and a faculty member that develops a sense of the way in which different forms of scholarly work are interconnected and enrich one another. How many examples have you heard today inside Sue's story of that interconnection? That within this completeness, the goal, ultimately, as a career objective, unfolds over a lifetime of work. Too, we see in Sue's story. The connected scholar engages in scholarly work that provides interactive and integrative connection with students, larger communities, and the university mission. In the stories and vignettes that you've heard already today, that journey of the complete and connected scholar is part of Sue's story arc. No only but also An Delcher, who's in the slide that you see here and Paul Mullins, among many others who are actually in the space today. And it's represented in the neighborhood of Saturday's work among many other projects. It's not only as you see in this book. It's not only example of technically sound collaborative ethnography. It's an example borne out in bore fruit in terms of digital scholarship through the digital repository that was created and which residents co created along with students graduate students sue. It was a co mentoring and co learning space where she and community elders and graduate students and undergraduate students came together. It is all of these things. It is fundamentally integrative work. We can go into the next slide Murray. I want to leave you with two things. As part of her larger work with inside out, another dimension of the work of complete and connected scholars is they don't focus on disciplinary boundaries. They break through them in all areas of their work. A single activity can bridge research, teaching, and service. Inside out, the neighborhood of Saturdays. Invisible Indianapolis are also examples of these, and they point to us the importance of lifting up the liberal arts inside our technical work. Some forms of knowledge cannot be written. They have to be expressed in other ways. And in some cases, knowledge is about self knowledge and being able to claim an identity and express oneself. Sue gave space to that in her teaching, and that is excellence indeed. I want to close by another example from inside out, and hopefully, I'm not going to ruin my friendship with Sue. We can go to the next slide. Is that inside some of the work that did, the collaborative work that she did with Inside Out? This is from 2021. She would invite students to think about and express themselves through poetry. And this is an example. This she invited along with colleagues from Pace, to have students inside and out, think about the nature of bridge leadership. Bridge leaders are people who can bridge the gap between communities to solve society's problems. And so when you think about students in re entry, students who have been so marginalized, that they may not see their own humanity and their own capacities, the ability to give voice to that and also for outside students to challenge some of their prior assumptions, it's really, really powerful. And then one of the poems that you see three poems here, two or by students, and the third is by Sue and Sue, don't get mad at me. I know you didn't want me to show this one. But I find it so powerful because again, part of the power of education is vulnerability. Complete and connected scholars make themselves vulnerable. And Sue has done that for us here. And so I close with her poem, the footbridge. Nobody ever thinks about foot bridges. Small and wooden, often broken down things. They are almost invisible, blending in with the overgrown grasses and rushes that surround them. But when you stand on that bridge and look down at the rushing water below, you realize that it's only because of this modest, slightly decrepit worn out structure, that you've been able to make it safely from one side of the river to the other. And then you are grateful. May we all be bridge leaders? Thank you for showing us the way. Well, thank you all very much for taking some time and sharing. And Sue, I know that when we were planning this, you talked about how hard it would be to not be able to see the audience, and I'm glad you were gracious to just listen to everybody talk about the amazing impact that you've had, and I know you've had an opportunity to see the comments that are in the chat for our Zoom about the memories and the impact that you've made on students. The community and all of us. And we have a few moments before we want to end this session altogether to invite anybody in the Zoom audience that would like to share a comment as well beyond what we've already heard. And we would ask you if you can, to go down to the bottom of the screen and raise your hands. We know that you'd like to say something. And as you are, please continue to put your comments in the Zoom chat. And that's an awesome place to thank Sue for the things that she's doned to recognize this amazing work. As you're getting ready to think about that, I hope that we're all setting the right intention about continuing this great work. As we listen to this today and other days, or we celebrate the work of translational scholars that are community engaged, that are partnering with students and community folks to identify issues and then generate knowledge that can help us solve complex problems in our community. This is a piece of our campus. It's a part of the fabric, and that we want to continue that. I don't think it can just go away no matter who's here because it's so impactful. And so I appreciate everyone saying that this is a piece of who we are, and this is what we endeavor to do, and we'll continue to do so. So, are there any other folks here that would like to take a moment to make a comment. This is your chance. If I could just say something for a minute, I just want to really give a heartfelt thank you to everybody. There are people here that I haven't seen and heard from in years. I can't believe they're here. Jen Wingate is here, somebody I know from England, my old friend Tessa Pollard, from the UK. Fran Rissman. I mean, this is amazing people. I just wish we were all physically in the same room. I just really want to thank you for the generous comments. I really feel very moved by them. The former students who are here, even some current students, I think, might have hopped on. I'll send out Nori, and thank you so much for everything, Nori. She'll send out the link to the neighborhood of Saturday's website, and you can get the New York Times article there and a number of other media interviews, and the oral history play and all kinds of of resources. We do need to work on getting the book reprinted. I saw it flash by that I should pay to have the book reprinted. Anybody who's interested in working on that with me, please let me know that something I'm really that's going to be my first project when I retire is there needs to be some corrections, and then we want to update the book with an addendum to, you know, kind of fill in the story of what's happened since then. So thank you, everybody. I guess that miss Pete isn't going to speak at the moment, but thank you for being here, miss Pete. Well, and we're glad to hear we have been talking in preparation for this about what happens in retirement, and you did mention, like having some jobs. So it sounds like updating this book would be very welcome. So I'm glad that you've committed here in a live recorded audience that you'll make a commitment to do. And can you commit to helping with the funding for that for that reprint? We could set the intention for that sue. I don't know that is can make a project, but if we just all put it out there, then perhaps there'll be a way for that to pen happen. Never know. My brother now. Sister are also here. Thank you, Josh and Judy for being here that's really nice. You see people who look at like me on the screen, that's them. So you see a question in the chat there that says, S based on your experience, what's the most important principle that we need to keep in mind to improve neighborhoods in Indianapolis? What would you say? Tough one, but I would say to always involve the people who live there in creating whatever the solutions or options might be. As people, you know, I've learned a lot about the recovery movement and people who are formally incarcerated, and they always say nothing about us without us. And I think that should just be a general principle everywhere. The other thing that you did say that I wanted to highlight was, you mentioned that it's about relationship. And it seems from my own perspective, as a social worker that everything that we do is based around relationship, and that involves taking the time to get to know one another to listen and to be good partners, and that's how we can really make a difference. And then I listen to the stories that are shared today about what an impact that makes, lifelong impact that that makes from an academic setting. And so thank you for making that possible. So Jennifer Ericson has raised a hand, so please go ahead. Say something. I just wanted to public acknowledge Sue's amazing mentorship. I'm just up the way in Muncie, Indiana at Ball State University. And Sue started mentoring me before I even came here. She was at a conference when I got the call from Ball State offering me the job. And because she was in Indiana, somebody hooked me up. I mean, I was very familiar with her work. And as soon as I started coming here and I learned about her neighborhood projects, I started trying to institute something like that here in Muncie, and she came and gave a talk to my students. And she has been so generous to me as a mentor. Even outside of the IUPUI network. And I just want to say, thank you, Sue, because in so many ways, she also has stepped in to be the president of the Society for the Anthropology of North America, and she is strengthening that organization, as you can all imagine, beyond measure. And so I appreciate everything she's done for IUPUI and wanted to chime in that her work goes beyond even IUPUI. And so thank you, Sue. Thanks for sharing that. That's very important. And I think it does illustrate the generosity and passion that Sue brings, and I think every time we talk to Sue and you just hear talk about it, it just fuels her. It just gives her passion to keep doing this work. So I noticed Barb Pierce made a comment about what do we do to make sure that the inside out program continues, and Barb would be glad to know that there was already some conversation about that. So hopefully, that is something that will happen and that we encourage everyone to advocate for this and other kinds of programs because they're so important. Thank you, everybody for joining And we will just stay around for a few minutes for those that wish to stay for the conversation for a little bit. But we appreciate that you've been here for this long and we know you have other things to do. We hope that you continue supporting IUPUI as we transition to IUI and whatever else we may be and continue these important programs in partnership with our community that include students, faculty, staff, as we continue to solve problems and work together, and I love this idea that we're family. So thank you all for joining. A